Xbox 720 massive leak

[mystieus]

http://www.scribd.co...ckpoint-Draft-1

[mystieus]

removed due to 'copyright infringement'

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/16/ru...eak/#continued

Microsoft has also sent copyright infringement takedown notice to Engadget:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/16/l...-720-document/

looks like it's real.

[matthewfarmery]

I don't really think a next gen console is really needed yet, I still think its too soon, as for decline of sales, well, I think that has a lot of factors on why that is, including too many games that are similar, publishers doing sequels and remakes, etc

this of course will continue in the 8 gen consoles, I don't see what benefits really a 8 gen console will really do? also games are over priced, as is the hardware, I feel the decline of sales is down to publishers then anything else. yes the mobile apps like the ipad are taking off too, but I still think unless games become cheaper, and more diverse, and longer, and more enjopyable, then even the 8 gen games will decline in time,

but overall, its just too soon for the consoles, too soon,

[mystieus]

E3 this year was dismal... without the announcement of MS and Sony next-gen consoles. The videogame industry is in desperate need of a jolt! ..sales have flat-line.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...own-28-percent

console gaming is really taking a hit, next gen systems should have come out this year. Nintendo got the timing right with the WiiU.

And it is pretty telling to see a PC game at the number one spot this month.... A retail PC game no less... retail PC gaming (AKA: physical boxed copies) has been on life support for years now.

[matthewfarmery]

I think not all of the may top ten games are that good

Diablo 3, yes it has sold a lot of copies, but people bought it on the strengh of the name, and that it is blizzard, but the game has serious problems, always online, and the servers do come down often, account hacking, and the drop rates of items balanced around the RMAH / GAH also lack of customisation, the same has taken a major hit on places like metacritic and amazon with many people saying they don't like the game for many reasons

Max Payne 3 PV version a very bad console port, many people are having problems with this game for one reason or another, and there are a few saying MP 1 and 2 are way better, better story and levels

at the end of the day, if publishers leep releasing broken games, or shoddy games, or shorter games with little content then sell over priced DLC to fill in the content that should have been there from the beginning then decline of full priced games will drop. 8 gen consoles will not solve this, as its publishers that are really killing the industry. they have such a strangle hold over triple A titles now, that many games just aren't worth playing. I really enjoyed MP 1 and 2, not touched 3, nor will I, the PC version is riddled with problems.

I think PC gaming has a future with kicstarter, if that remains sucessful. this is where most new games, original ideas and gaming will now come from, as publishers will kill of any triple A gaming by not doing original stuff, how many times will people play the same COD? or BF? there will be a limit, but this is what publishers want, sure, BF3 did sell, but I wonder if the next one really will? or the next COD? if there is a major decline of sales, and publishers feel it, then they have themselves only to brain by killing gaming, making crapper and crapper more dumbed down games as the years go on

what more is there to say?

but if they want to save the industry, they got to start funding better games, and stop killing studios that they control (Looking at you EA!) until they allow more time for games to mature and stop pushing them out of the door before they are ready, (games) and invest in more original titles and what not, otherwise people will get tired of playing the same games over and over and look else where, and if people see what is out for the 8 gen consoles ans say "but we already played a BF3 on the Xbox 360, why do I need to play a BF4? or a COD 10 or a horrible game that only lasts a few hours?

then people won't bother, and the sales will continue to decline

[matthewfarmery]

these graphs tell another interesting story

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...paign=us-daily

and shows both EA and take two taking massive losses

there are several reasons for this
one SWTOR which is pretty much a flop, the game clearly not doing as well as EA had hoped, but a lot of work went into the voice acting, I have a friend that plays this game, on the EU servers, and many of them are light, not many on those servers, while a few are heavy, most aren't, and EA paid a lot towards this game

but still, like I said before the other reasons are the company itself, they are simply damaging the gaming industry, for a long time buying up companies then making them **** or close them down, so while EA do have a lot of IPs, when they do reuse an IP like syndicate, they turn it into a mediocre console port, or just very average at best. they are a cancer in gaming, and to see them lose a lot of money is a good thing, or should I said their share prices fallen is a good thing. maybe the company will sit up and take notice of the damage it's doing, but I feel that is unlikely. I think Kickstarter will be the direction that PC gaming will go in, and cut away from big publishers that are turning their back on making good PC games. plus I really don't think the 8 gen systems will help, there was a BBC news article on the up coming systems and many say that without the second hand trade, quite a few children will not be able to afford the new games. plus bandwidth will be a major issue, as not all UK ISP have unlimited bandwidth, so if the games are what, 20 + gig a pop, then that will be a lot to download, yes there is cloud gaming that allows you to download so much then start playing, but even this will use a fair amount of bandwidth. so I really don't see the 8 gen systems working, which will hurt publishers more, as they will try and get all their games to the digital route

but EA needs to die, they are a very bad publisher, if this trend of them losing money / share prices continue, then they won't be such a powerhouse anymore, and maybe help smaller publishers to do better quality games. but I think EA should sell some of its IPs / titles to other publishers and smaller developers and maybe then we will see a turn to better quality games then the trash that publishers are spewing out now

I long to see EA change or die, or fall from grace so that it can no longer have such a strangle hold over gaming. the less EA published titles that appear the better

[SMAK]

so much truth in one post!!! Same exact thing Ive been preaching. Yet no one listens and contintues to support these remakes with new maps. (CoD, BF)

[SMAK]

well minus the anti EA stuff. I like alot of there games. Especially what they've done to my NHL games!!! That doesn't make me the video game devil worshipper does it?