just a heads up, the ARPG Grimdanw has now started a KS page, they are asking for $280,000, to hire more devs, as many are doing full time jobs for other companies,

the game is taking a while because of that, but the game unlike many KS projects is pretty much there, the only issue is content, they only have a couple of people full time on the game, rest are part time, if they meet their funding goal, this will allow for more devs to come in full time, and allow the game to be out a bit quicker

I say this game will certainly beat D3, so if you are interested in playing a good ARPG and not interested in crappy D3, then please check out the page

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...ment/grim-dawn

and support the project